Dec 24 2008
Today I´ve been Mrs PMT. Twitchy, enraged for no very good reason, nothing I did all day felt quite right, not really known what to do with myself, unable to make decisions, definitely got a cold (bloody sniffly friend coming out to dinner 2 nights ago saying how ill he was but still sitting there eating and coughing with us), just Out-Of-Sorts.
Was supposed to have a lesson in the evening, but Mariana had some problems up so it ended up cancelled, and rather then going to her class at Tango Queer, decided I really did want to see some Tango Nuevo before I leave BA as its very different to Salon & Milongera; lots of kicks, separating from your partner, coming off your axis, etc. And today I had a very gentle group class today that put in a couple of Nuevo style moves, which I enjoyed doing. So I went to a Tango Nuevo class at Practica X - where all the best dancers go for the milonga after the class. I joined the class late, but still with an hour to go of it. And I´d say only one or two couples there should really have been doing it, because the rest (I include myself here) weren´t holding themselves properly (with the core, so that when you do come off your axis, you´re still balanced...very hard to do as a principiante/beginner). So basically a class where most people were flailing around.
Due to feeling out of sorts, I turned up and immediately wished I´d gone to TQ. Especially as I had no partner to dance with and people weren´t changing partners, so I had to keep nudging the teacher to get them to find me someone. But I stuck with it because I was stuck on the wrong side of town and if I´d left, by the time I´d gotten to TQ it would have finished anyway. Then we had the milonga at which I was unable to dance or concentrate...so just made myself more annoyed. And although I would normally have been happy to sit back and enjoy watching other people dance, I just didn´t feel comfortable there. During milongas there is usually a break for a show given by a professional couple, and there was indeed a great show by some amazing people. But again what would normally inspire me, only served to frustrate me... I couldn´t see how I could ever do any of that stuff when I was struggling so hard with the basics. I feel like I´ve gone backwards over the last couple of evenings, rather then forwards. The night ended early at 12.30am and everyone was invited to a different milonga - La Viruta. So I grabbed the people I was with and suggested that instead of La Viruta we went to TQ. Which we did, and it was lovely. We were just there for an hour or so, but I like it so much. Its relaxed, and very real. Not about showing off, just about dancing and enjoying dancing. Thats not to say that the people at Practica X where I´d just come from weren´t enjoying it, or "real" but I love the openness at TQ. Watching same sex and mixed couples all dancing and swapping roles. And there not being any snootiness about people dancing and getting it wrong. I´m just gutted that it isn´t on every night because I´d live there if it was. And it really has made me want to learn to lead. I danced with a lovely girl, who has only been learning since February this year and is really good. So I´m going to bed trying to hold on to the good fun bit from the end of the night and not the rest. I think a St Johns Wort will help.
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Thursday, December 25, 2008
The Story So Far...
Here are some posts I´ve put up in other places on the internet...to get you up to speed...
Dec 19 2008
The update is, today i learnt what i´ve been doing wrong.
OK, actually every day i´m learning what i´ve been doing wrong, but today I really understood what I´ve been doing wrong.
There are 3 (I think) different styles of Tango. Tango Milongese, Tango Salon and Tango Nuevo.
I´ve learnt Milongese in london from my teacher, which is where both partners lean in to each other and the leader leads from the chest. The leader could lead without any arms if he/she wanted to, it is so much about the chest. This is in a closed embrace - so both partners lean in to each other to form a triangle, rest cheek to cheek and the chest is always in contact because that is where the centre is and the communication is.
But here in BA I´ve danced with men who have not always lead with the chest but lead with the arms. Which I think is more Salon. And also bad practice if you´re dancing milonga, but leading in a salon style.
Basically because I´m young(ish) with blonde hair and a bit cute, men here like to ask me to dance to show off with. So I´ve ended up doing lots of great tango moves and doing bits of footwork (all those cute leg moves in the air and circling moves with the foot on the floor), that really, someone with a big stick should have come along to me and hit me and told me to get off the dance floor and go and relearn the basics.
Tango Nuevo is Modern Tango, where there is lots of separation and people who don´t dance it look down on it, because they think its more showy and less about the connection with the other dancer, and more about getting some moves in. I want to learn it cos I´m ultimately a massive show off. However, I need to learn milongese first because that is harder and once I´m able to stop trying to dance ´steps´and instead listen with my body to my partner´s body, wait for my partner to indicate what he/she wants (I went to Tango Queer on Tuesday, so I know a good dance can happen with either sex, as its all about a connection, not about a sexual feeling) and respond accordingly, I will be a better technical dancer and will be able to chuck myself around in Tango Nuevo if I want.
So my revelation came tonight because where i´ve been staying i´ve been hanging out with a couple of german women. One of them has danced with me a couple of times and I could feel her frustration that I wasn´t listening properly with my body to what she was leading me to do. And when i´ve seen her lead with other people, they all seem to get what she wants, so i knew it was my fault and not hers. And today i went to a class where it was explained. How i should lean, how I should listen, how I should walk, what the indicators are. Basics, but the most important things.All stuff I´ve heard before but tonight i really *got* it.
So now I start 10 hardcore days of learning to dance. I plan to have one group class and 1 or 2 private classes a day. Plus a milonga (the dance you go to, like you would a disco, only its tango). Having been to 8 classes and 6 milonga in the last 6 days, I´m cream crackered. And walking 10miles+ across town didn´t help my blisters. But sod it. I´m on it and I love it.
If I can return to London a better dance partner and my teacher notices, my dream will have been partially accomplished. My other dream is of course to do all the flicky footwork and be the greatest dancer in the world ever, but if I can be a good follower first, that will be a good step towards it.
Oh, and for those who have asked...queer tango you dance whichever position you want. Good dancers swap part way through the dance, so you start leading and end up following, or vice versa. If I can learn to be a good follower I reckon next year I´ll start learning to lead. Cos its fun and it will only help to make me a more rounded dancer - when you can understand what the other person is doing, you can really understand what you should be doing. In my classes in london the men learn the same moves as the women because they need to know what the women will be doing as followers so they can lead them properly.
PS I forgot Tango Fantasy which is show tango on stage.
PPS I have got 3 pairs of well cute shoesdance with 8cm-10cm heels. But I think I´m going to only wear the practice shoes I bought in a bowling shoe style with 1cm heels. Cos I figure once I can dance in them properly I can dance in real heels. In heels its much harder to feel what you´re doing on the floor with your feet.
Oh, and so next tuesday when I go to TangoQueer I can look a bit butch ;)
Dec 19 2008
The update is, today i learnt what i´ve been doing wrong.
OK, actually every day i´m learning what i´ve been doing wrong, but today I really understood what I´ve been doing wrong.
There are 3 (I think) different styles of Tango. Tango Milongese, Tango Salon and Tango Nuevo.
I´ve learnt Milongese in london from my teacher, which is where both partners lean in to each other and the leader leads from the chest. The leader could lead without any arms if he/she wanted to, it is so much about the chest. This is in a closed embrace - so both partners lean in to each other to form a triangle, rest cheek to cheek and the chest is always in contact because that is where the centre is and the communication is.
But here in BA I´ve danced with men who have not always lead with the chest but lead with the arms. Which I think is more Salon. And also bad practice if you´re dancing milonga, but leading in a salon style.
Basically because I´m young(ish) with blonde hair and a bit cute, men here like to ask me to dance to show off with. So I´ve ended up doing lots of great tango moves and doing bits of footwork (all those cute leg moves in the air and circling moves with the foot on the floor), that really, someone with a big stick should have come along to me and hit me and told me to get off the dance floor and go and relearn the basics.
Tango Nuevo is Modern Tango, where there is lots of separation and people who don´t dance it look down on it, because they think its more showy and less about the connection with the other dancer, and more about getting some moves in. I want to learn it cos I´m ultimately a massive show off. However, I need to learn milongese first because that is harder and once I´m able to stop trying to dance ´steps´and instead listen with my body to my partner´s body, wait for my partner to indicate what he/she wants (I went to Tango Queer on Tuesday, so I know a good dance can happen with either sex, as its all about a connection, not about a sexual feeling) and respond accordingly, I will be a better technical dancer and will be able to chuck myself around in Tango Nuevo if I want.
So my revelation came tonight because where i´ve been staying i´ve been hanging out with a couple of german women. One of them has danced with me a couple of times and I could feel her frustration that I wasn´t listening properly with my body to what she was leading me to do. And when i´ve seen her lead with other people, they all seem to get what she wants, so i knew it was my fault and not hers. And today i went to a class where it was explained. How i should lean, how I should listen, how I should walk, what the indicators are. Basics, but the most important things.All stuff I´ve heard before but tonight i really *got* it.
So now I start 10 hardcore days of learning to dance. I plan to have one group class and 1 or 2 private classes a day. Plus a milonga (the dance you go to, like you would a disco, only its tango). Having been to 8 classes and 6 milonga in the last 6 days, I´m cream crackered. And walking 10miles+ across town didn´t help my blisters. But sod it. I´m on it and I love it.
If I can return to London a better dance partner and my teacher notices, my dream will have been partially accomplished. My other dream is of course to do all the flicky footwork and be the greatest dancer in the world ever, but if I can be a good follower first, that will be a good step towards it.
Oh, and for those who have asked...queer tango you dance whichever position you want. Good dancers swap part way through the dance, so you start leading and end up following, or vice versa. If I can learn to be a good follower I reckon next year I´ll start learning to lead. Cos its fun and it will only help to make me a more rounded dancer - when you can understand what the other person is doing, you can really understand what you should be doing. In my classes in london the men learn the same moves as the women because they need to know what the women will be doing as followers so they can lead them properly.
PS I forgot Tango Fantasy which is show tango on stage.
PPS I have got 3 pairs of well cute shoesdance with 8cm-10cm heels. But I think I´m going to only wear the practice shoes I bought in a bowling shoe style with 1cm heels. Cos I figure once I can dance in them properly I can dance in real heels. In heels its much harder to feel what you´re doing on the floor with your feet.
Oh, and so next tuesday when I go to TangoQueer I can look a bit butch ;)
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